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Выпуск от 11.10.2007в начало коммент   в конец коммент







IRLink Remote Control. Я уже в начале года упоминал продукцию IRLink, а теперь вот у меня есть девайс для проверки функции эмулирования любого пульта. Т.е. это приемник и излучатель в одном корпусе.

Тема ИК-управления для меня является достаточно старинной и исхоженной вдоль и поперек, но до излучателей я так и не добирался.

Итак, задача: научить приемопередатчик пульту от кондиционера. Это не очень тривиально, потому как у кондиционеров вкл/выкл обычно с разными кодами, хотя кнопка одна.


Слева - интерфейс пульта, справа - программа обучения.

Корпус IRLink.VS по габаритам и внешнему виду не изменилась с начала выпуска. Единственно - внутренности. Из софта - добавилась программа для удаленного управления. Все программное обеспечение лучше брать на сайте - на диске, идущем в комплекте можно взять только JavaMachine.

Кстати, о софте: все написано на Java, поэтому система является кросс-платформенной. Это конечно большой плюс.
Однако, чистое программирование на Java сказывается на программинге - уж не знаю почему.
Интерфейс достаточно слабый, функциональность - минимальная. Хотя ее вполне хватает для программирования пультов и поддержки плагинов. Т.е. часть, которая отвечает за управление компом от внешнего ПДУ - она сделана достаточно неплохо и более-менее отработана. Управление же внешними устройствами _от_ компа еще не достаточно хорошо развито. Во-первых, пульт получается без названий кнопок (хотя бы цвета сделали бы), во-вторых, автоматизацию сделать на настоящем этапе невозможно.
Далее, у меня получилось (достаточно легко!) научить виртуальный пульт кнопкам настоящего пульта и с компа включать/выключать кондиционер. Все было очень четко и без напрягов.
Но. Хочется скриптового языка какого-то для автоматизации. Ведь например было бы здорово научить комп управлять по ИК разными бытовыми устройствами самостоятельно по каким-то событиям. Тем более, где-то я видел бытовой термометр, передающий данные по ИК. А еще, давно уже существуют бытовые выключатели с ИК управлением - ими тоже может вполне управлять комп.

В общем, именно приемопередатчик IRLink - это уже продукт очень практичный. С софтом явно есть сложности, но это уже в перспективе, надо надеяться.

 
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15  tallarna :
2 RoadDreamer:
Вот, немцы делают: http://www.itvmedia.de/htpc-itvcontrol.htm
    -   | rank:248 | post-id:11598|17.10.2007/15:38
 
14  RoadDreamer :
Многих людей напрягает таскать по комнате и вечно спотыкаться "об эту доску с кнопками". Для них есть концепт-вариант: клава-трансформер. На месте правых цифровых клавиш выполнены кнопки ПДУ, а сама клава складывается(гармошкой?) в габариты привычного ИК-пульта. Разложил - рули компом, сложил - только ТВ и остальная бытовуха.
    -   | rank:1525 | post-id:11470|15.10.2007/00:11
 
13  RoadDreamer :
[to iamhere] Согласен, конечно-же это всё баловство! Ни один карманный ПДУ не осилит функциональности компьютера. Кстати, уже давно изобретён и успешнее всего используется ЕДИНСТВЕННЫЙ наиболее удобный и полнофункциональный пульт управления компьютером. Его делали и на ИК-излучении, так-что "пытаться делать универсальный ИК пульт" абсолютно не нужно! Догадались? Для
компьютерно-безграмотных: речь о клавиатуре.
    -   | rank:1525 | post-id:11469|15.10.2007/00:01
 
12  iamhere :
Вообще, если уж пытаться делать универсальный ИК пульт управления - то есть же КПК с ИК-портом и софт соответствующий. В режиме обучения ловит сигнал от родного пульта, потом вешается на кнопку "виртуального" пульта и воспроизводит. При желании - еще и по команде голосом :)
Только все равно баловство это все.
    -   | rank:3 | post-id:11460|13.10.2007/14:20
 
11  aay :
Да забыл добавить... UIRT можно ещё научить комп включать (я его в разрыв кнопки питания подключал), да и себестоимость его будет от силы 10-15$, но никак не 60$
А вот и первая ссылка которую мне выдал гугл - http://msevm.com/main/uirt/index.htm Единственный его минус - подключение по COM порту... но гугл грит что есть и USB варианты... Кстати начинал я как раз с этого сайта и простейшей схемы на стабилитроне :)
    -   | rank:2 | post-id:11449|12.10.2007/20:19
 
10  aay :
очень уж данный девайс напоминает мне UIRT, только в культурной упаковке... было дело даже паял такой, только без передатчика. А по поводу софта - для UIRTа можно и самому написать (там весь разбор сигнала микроконтроллер делает и отдаёт в порт уже коды кнопок), а можно и girder попользовать.
    -   | rank:2 | post-id:11447|12.10.2007/20:07
 
9  NYBR :
[to Vatson] дело в том, что по какой то прихоти призводители кондиционеров не могут нацчить свои детища обрабатывать таймер более чем на 12 часов. Вот 12 часов и баста. А если уехать на полные выходные - с утра субботы и вернутся в воскресенье вечером, то вернутся хочется в прозладную квартиру. Итого 12 часов паузы на таймере а потом кондер молотит до приезда хозяев.
    -   | rank:507 | post-id:11430|12.10.2007/16:25
 
8  chas :
[to Vatson] в серверной (дешовенькой) управлять кондеем (дешовенким)
    -   | rank:82 | post-id:11423|12.10.2007/14:01
 
7  ajin :
напомню всем, кто не помнит, оригинальный LIRC и порт под винду WinLIRC умеют не только принимать команды с пульта (и управлять компом), но и генерировать команды, управляя с компа бытовой техникой. Что приемник, что передатчик -- очень простые схемы (сам когда-то увлекался)
    -   | rank:155 | post-id:11417|12.10.2007/11:13
 
6  Vatson :
Не вижу принципиальной необходимости пультом от кондишена управлять компом. Юзал данный софт по моему мнению прога немного сыровата.
    -   | rank:1 | post-id:11399|12.10.2007/08:24
 
5  NYBR :
Если не ошибаюсь, то Винлирк это софт, котрый позволяет управлять компом с внешнего пульта. В случае с кондиционером - нужен наоборот комп который будет прикидываться универсальным пультом. И, кстати сам "пульт" - передатчик тоже нужен
    -   | rank:507 | post-id:11395|12.10.2007/05:09
 
4  anton_kg :
а вот оригинал с дэфкона
http://www.alcrypto.co.uk/MMIrDA/
http://www.task.to/events/presentations/Defcon13_Review_Pres
Так что с софтом проблем нет :)
    -   | rank:194 | post-id:11385|12.10.2007/03:09
 
3  anton_kg :
WinLIRC, похоже, это порт под windows. Никогда не пробывал. А вот оригинальный LIRC - это мощьный пакет. Используя его, народ переберает все коды от лифтов, гаражей, отелей. Все, что имеет инфракрасный порт
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2005/07/68370
    -   | rank:194 | post-id:11384|12.10.2007/03:04
 
2  altmind :
а вы пробовали заюзать WinLIRC? Вроде хорошо работает и всеядна
    -   | rank:7 | post-id:11383|12.10.2007/02:13
 
1  NYBR :
1600 рублей за премопередатчик, для управления кондиционером это черзчур. У меня сам кондиционер стоит полтораста баксов. Я искал работающее решение пару лет назад. за долларов 20 не более. не более. Не нашел. А тратить более не хочется
    -   | rank:507 | post-id:11378|11.10.2007/22:57

это мой е-майл Боря делал дизайн